Want to transfer 43000 + domain names from GoDaddy to......

Hello...

I'm part of a online club who collects domain names. We have together more than 43.000 domain names with GoDaddy.
Part of the reason to do it with GoDaddy was all the benefits with "Go Daddy Hosting Connection"

Now that they changed 3 weeks ago, without notice the benefits which comes with the free credits and therefor the "Go Daddy Hosting Connection" we want to change from registrar.

Anybody aware of a free transfer from Go Daddy to.... without upgrading all your domain names with an extra year of registration?

We have currently 76 accounts with GoDaddy. The largest hold around 3000 domain names. Anybody else want to joy our re listing action and make a bold fist to godaddy???
Let me know...
read also my post from this morning.... 

You will need to contact registrars to negotiate some bulk pricing.

I do not believe it is possible to transfer a domain WITHOUT adding an additional year to it.  However again some registrar may be able to to make an exception to this.

Please browse our "alternatives" section of the forum and contact as many registrars as possible with your situation...hopefully someone will be able to help you run away from GoDaddy.

Thanks Rohan,

We will look into it. Problem that you only find nodaddy when it's to late....it's to late now.
Let me know if anyone  knows a lawyer...

Hi Mulpi,

unfortunately it is not possible to execute a bulk transfer without renewing the domain besides when ICANN orders it.

In general ICANN orders it for a de-accredited Registrar in order to transfer the domain to a new Registrar or when the two Registrars (losing and gaining) are in agreement to execute the bulk transfer.

In your specific case I really doubt GoDaddy would be happy to strike an agreement with a new Registrar in order to move your 43,000 domains away...

I am Internet.bs Corp. CEO (http://www.internet.bs) and I can offer you transfers at cost, i.e. we will charge you no less no more than what each Regsitry and ICANN are charging us, and we can review the official documents together so you can be assured the prices are exact.

Please contact me if you are interested, furthermore our renewal prices are very low compared to Godaddy or other Registrars and we are based in the Bahamas so you can benefit from extra protection as we never received a single court order in order to de-activate one of our customer's domain. So far we have de-activated domains ONLY when we receive a chargeback , when the customer is spamming and only after receiving a formal complaint and listing on SpamHaus or after a WIPO Panel decision (UDRP).

Regards,
Marco Rinaudo - CEO
Internet.bs Corp.
http://www.internet.bs

Hi Marco,

Thanks for your reply. The basic problem is money (How else) we have the 43L volume because we are a large group of people together.
We also can start our own registrar if or when we compare paying 43000 x the minimum costs or the minimum payment to start the accredited business...
43K names x average of $3/$4 IS WORTH IT....

but thanks for your response....

of course with 43K domains you could run your own Registrar and you won't be the smallest.

Note however that managing a Registrar business is not just a matter of finances, you also need to comply with an increasingly amount of technical, legal and administrative constraints imposed by each Registry and by ICANN.

Now about money, even if you are your own Registrar you are going to pay the annual registration fee or renewal feel like whichever else Registrar, actually the Registration fee for .com and .net in particular are fixed and regulated by ICANN (in accordance with the Registry), in other words Verisign (the .com/.net Registry) cannot increase (or decrease) prices without prior ICANN approval and all Registrars regardless of their size and volume are paying exactly the same fee for Registration to the Registry and to ICANN. The current price paid by ALL registrars for a .com domain is $6.86 plus $.20 to ICANN, in other words whomever is offering the Registration or Transfer for below $7.06 is selling below cost and be assured you are going to find Registrars selling below cost but in general it is for a limited time or for a particular promotion but for none of us the real cost will be below $7.06 and I am not including handling fees or credit card processing fees.

Once again even if you are approved by ICANN, and it can take a while and you create all the technical, legal and administrative infrastructure to handle your names, it won't cost you less than $7.06 per domain, without including server fees, credit card processing fees, annual ICANN membership and so on.

Another approach to reduce your initial migration fees, would be to migrate progressively your domains while they are expiring, this way you can in average divide by 12 the initial amount needed and anyway you would have paid the same amount or a greater one to your current Registrar for renewals. We are currently offering .com transfers below cost at $6.90 and .net at $4.99, meaning at our current transfer price it would be cheaper for you compared to running your own Registrar.

I hope you will have a look to our offer and taking in account the relatively high amount of domains you represent I will be pleased to be your direct contact in case you decide to work with us, either now or in the future, there is no rush.

Regards,
Marco Rinaudo - CEO
Internet.bs Corp.
http://www.internet.bs

You are making the right decision. The only smart choice is to leave Go Daddy!

I have left that disgusting company and everyone else should too.

Good luck with your new registrar. Any other registrar will be a lot better.

Go Daddy sucks!

Wow, I thought I had a problem with 12 domains! Please read my post "Be Warned about Godaddy.com" to see what could be down the road for you at Godaddy. They are completely unethical but so big and powerful they can do whatever they want. I hope you get your domains away from them as soon as possible!

Just to inform everybody....
Our domain club is negotiating with a couple of registrars and there is a lot possible!
I remember reading somewhere that $6.99 is under cost price or something similar...

Maybe that is true but we have awesome offers for $4.99

Volume counts!

However in our domain club we don't want to renew all the domains, so we are counting now how many to renew.

If anybody wants to join, let us know.

We are ALSO talking with an investor to start our own registrar, with the conditions that we are offering this for cost price....

We'll see...We keep you informed!

hey Mulpi, of course volume counts...but Registry prices and ICANN fees are fixed, Registrars do not get a better price based on volume, we all pay the same price which for a .com domain is aorund $7.06 including Registry and ICANN fees, there is little a Registrar can do against it.
So be warned and ask your new Registrar how they intend to recoup the $2+ lost on each domain you transfer to them. The most likely answer could be hidden in the renewal price. It may be nice to have transfer at $4.99 but what if then you have to renew the domain at $10 or more?

About your idea of creating a Registrar, please take in account once again that your cost won't be below $7.06 per .com domain, while right now thanks to the quantity you have you can negotiate rebates from Registrars at least for transfers below costs.

Regards,
Marco Rinaudo - CEO
Internet.bs Corp.
http://www.internet.bs
http://www.internetbs.net

The only way any registrar in its collective "right mind" would transfer/renew a domain for less than $7.06/year is if you also bought other services (e.g. web hosting) through them -- where they still make a net profit on the transaction.

May I venture a suggestion?  You and your partners get ready to shell out big bucks for a lawyer who is expert at internet law, then ask him to do the transfers for you.  Or contact your embassy rep, and ask him to oversee it.

Let me get this straight. You think you'll find free hosting and the benefits of the Hosting Connection with another registrar.

I don't think the others in this string quite get WHY you are leaving. You not only want domains but for some reason think you are entitled to free easy install hosting applications like Joomla and WordPress just because you have collectively (how many people in your "club" anyway?) 43000 domains.  If you have such great domain names, why don't you get your own server? Then you can download and run whatever applications you wanted. Just hold out you hat to the club members, see which ones of them aren't cheap b@$7@rd$, and get your own server.

Mr Rinaudo of internet.bs??? Are you sure you would want this kind of whiner as a customer? Do you offer free hosting on your servers with the ability to add Applications like Joomla and WordPress with a few clicks? I think not. Besides you can still install those "free" apps on a "free" server you just have to be smarter than your average bag of hammers to do it.